Comments on: Treading Lightly with CSS Frameworks http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/09/09/treading-lightly-with-css-frameworks/ Gary Barber rants on user experience, information architecture and the web industry. Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:10:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: David McDonald http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/09/09/treading-lightly-with-css-frameworks/#comment-2934 David McDonald Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:50:29 +0000 http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/09/09/treading-lightly-with-css-frameworks/#comment-2934 I, too, save time on builds by using a basic 'templating' system that I have refined over the years. What I find with a lot of these frameworks is that they try to be 'all things to all people', which leads to using more code than is necessary, so I tend to spend quite a bit of time actually removing unnecessary CSS and XHTML and rewriting. I, too, save time on builds by using a basic ‘templating’ system that I have refined over the years.

What I find with a lot of these frameworks is that they try to be ‘all things to all people’, which leads to using more code than is necessary, so I tend to spend quite a bit of time actually removing unnecessary CSS and XHTML and rewriting.

]]> By: Ashul Shah http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/09/09/treading-lightly-with-css-frameworks/#comment-2881 Ashul Shah Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:27:34 +0000 http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/09/09/treading-lightly-with-css-frameworks/#comment-2881 We had a long discussion about this in the office today and it seems that unbeknown to us we are already using an in-house CSS framework or as you put it templated system - simply borne out of requiring a common standards based approach in building the CSS for sites using the single platform (the EdukaCMS) our collective agreement was a CSS framework is good but you need make sure it is used by all team members in all projects for it to work.. We had a long discussion about this in the office today and it seems that unbeknown to us we are already using an in-house CSS framework or as you put it templated system - simply borne out of requiring a common standards based approach in building the CSS for sites using the single platform (the EdukaCMS) our collective agreement was a CSS framework is good but you need make sure it is used by all team members in all projects for it to work..

]]> By: Gary Barber http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/09/09/treading-lightly-with-css-frameworks/#comment-2876 Gary Barber Sun, 09 Sep 2007 14:21:26 +0000 http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/09/09/treading-lightly-with-css-frameworks/#comment-2876 @sutto That's how I use my templates, all the basic layout and presentational elements are in place. Cuts hours of the time required for building a site. There is a grid, but not in the form as in Blueprint. You could even just standardise the elements and in doing so make them standards and accessibility compliant. @sutto That’s how I use my templates, all the basic layout and presentational elements are in place. Cuts hours of the time required for building a site. There is a grid, but not in the form as in Blueprint. You could even just standardise the elements and in doing so make them standards and accessibility compliant.

]]> By: Sutto http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/09/09/treading-lightly-with-css-frameworks/#comment-2875 Sutto Sun, 09 Sep 2007 14:12:05 +0000 http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/09/09/treading-lightly-with-css-frameworks/#comment-2875 I'm doing RailsRumble at the moment and used Blueprint to setup a basis quickly and easily - I personally feel it makes a world of a difference when your in a situation that involves rapid prototyping - I mean, I would of taken ages other wise to get anything near to what I had in 1 hour. On the idea of going further - I think for some aspects, it can be useful - e.g. uni-form where standardizing the form markup. I find it helps give you something consistent to work with, even if its only the for the sake of development (and not for accessibility of others, even though thats important ;)) I’m doing RailsRumble at the moment and used Blueprint to setup a basis quickly and easily - I personally feel it makes a world of a difference when your in a situation that involves rapid prototyping - I mean, I would of taken ages other wise to get anything near to what I had in 1 hour.

On the idea of going further - I think for some aspects, it can be useful - e.g. uni-form where standardizing the form markup. I find it helps give you something consistent to work with, even if its only the for the sake of development (and not for accessibility of others, even though thats important ;))

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