Comments on: Not to Itouch http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/10/13/not-to-itouch/ Gary Barber rants on user experience, and the controlled chaos of the Web Industry Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:19:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sammy81 http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/10/13/not-to-itouch/comment-page-1/#comment-3238 Sammy81 Wed, 17 Oct 2007 05:30:07 +0000 http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/10/13/not-to-itouch/#comment-3238 I think you guys are digging into it too deep. The Itouch has a class on it's own. If you can't afford it then stick to a nokia 5110. The Itouch is a fun hardware. it's a god dam media player for god shakes. What more can you ask from it? I think you guys are digging into it too deep. The Itouch has a class on it’s own. If you can’t afford it then stick to a nokia 5110. The Itouch is a fun hardware. it’s a god dam media player for god shakes. What more can you ask from it?

]]> By: john Allsopp http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/10/13/not-to-itouch/comment-page-1/#comment-3221 john Allsopp Mon, 15 Oct 2007 03:45:39 +0000 http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/10/13/not-to-itouch/#comment-3221 Gary, here's my take on this. Forget the iPhone forget mobile phones with browsers on them Forget laptops with wifi. Just pick up the device, and use it for web connectivity for a day or two. to me it is a living breathing prototype of the future - It's not perfect, by any means, but as a user experience for the mobile web, well, it redefines it. Not too far from now, I predict, most people will access the web most of the time on devices much more like this than your laptop, mobile phone, let alone desktop (which would still I'd say represent the device most people use for web browsing). Gary,

here’s my take on this.

Forget the iPhone
forget mobile phones with browsers on them
Forget laptops with wifi.

Just pick up the device, and use it for web connectivity for a day or two.

to me it is a living breathing prototype of the future – It’s not perfect, by any means, but as a user experience for the mobile web, well, it redefines it.

Not too far from now, I predict, most people will access the web most of the time on devices much more like this than your laptop, mobile phone, let alone desktop (which would still I’d say represent the device most people use for web browsing).

]]> By: Kate http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/10/13/not-to-itouch/comment-page-1/#comment-3215 Kate Sun, 14 Oct 2007 03:22:28 +0000 http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/10/13/not-to-itouch/#comment-3215 I agree with Richard that it should have come out before the iPhone; I'm not sure if it has as much educational value as the iPod yet - the lack of capacity for podcasts or instructional videos, and the lack of notes. I was disappointed when it came out, I thought it would be the iPhone without phone component but pretty much everything else. However, after being convinced by quite a cynical friend that it was worth it, I did end up buying one. Now, on my iPod Video 60gig my whole library was only 17gig, and much of that was music I've been meaning to delete cause I skip past it every time I listen on shuffle and lots more space was taken by podcasts I'd already listened to (I manually manage my iPod too...). Anyway, going down to 16gig was good because I was made to rethink what I wanted to listen to. But, it wasn't $550 just to trim my playlist which I could have done on my iPod. I'd wanted a PDA for a long time, but knew I wouldn't use a 3rd device (iPod & mobile phone being the other two) and would hate carrying it around. I love my Blackberry, but needed something with more function. So the iPod Touch looked the way to go. I was majorly pissed off when I found the notes tool was missing - but I'm hoping that Apple comes to it's senses or that I can use a hack tool to put this app on (which I shouldn't have to do, but i'll save that rant for another day). But, in the end I bought the iPod Touch because I simply like it. (I'm waiting for your response - $550 to make you happy?!.. well, lots of people can spend that on other things to make them happy! Like drugs, food, clothing, whatever their interest!) I agree with Richard that it should have come out before the iPhone; I’m not sure if it has as much educational value as the iPod yet – the lack of capacity for podcasts or instructional videos, and the lack of notes.

I was disappointed when it came out, I thought it would be the iPhone without phone component but pretty much everything else. However, after being convinced by quite a cynical friend that it was worth it, I did end up buying one.

Now, on my iPod Video 60gig my whole library was only 17gig, and much of that was music I’ve been meaning to delete cause I skip past it every time I listen on shuffle and lots more space was taken by podcasts I’d already listened to (I manually manage my iPod too…).

Anyway, going down to 16gig was good because I was made to rethink what I wanted to listen to. But, it wasn’t $550 just to trim my playlist which I could have done on my iPod.

I’d wanted a PDA for a long time, but knew I wouldn’t use a 3rd device (iPod & mobile phone being the other two) and would hate carrying it around. I love my Blackberry, but needed something with more function. So the iPod Touch looked the way to go. I was majorly pissed off when I found the notes tool was missing – but I’m hoping that Apple comes to it’s senses or that I can use a hack tool to put this app on (which I shouldn’t have to do, but i’ll save that rant for another day).

But, in the end I bought the iPod Touch because I simply like it.

(I’m waiting for your response – $550 to make you happy?!.. well, lots of people can spend that on other things to make them happy! Like drugs, food, clothing, whatever their interest!)

]]> By: Jesse http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/10/13/not-to-itouch/comment-page-1/#comment-3214 Jesse Sun, 14 Oct 2007 03:14:48 +0000 http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/10/13/not-to-itouch/#comment-3214 Developing a better experience for the small screens that can take advantage of it isn't putting a wall around the garden. The content can be available elsewhere but unless you have a browser like Opera Mini 4 or the webkit/symbian/iPhone browser you likely aren't *using* the mobile web. If nothing else though, the iHype puts competition out there. Loving iCrap is partly because Apple mixes style with function and it works well. Nokia has been flopping around with decent style but confused function. As have other phone makers... Personally I would prefer a N800, but the iPod touch will do. Developing a better experience for the small screens that can take advantage of it isn’t putting a wall around the garden. The content can be available elsewhere but unless you have a browser like Opera Mini 4 or the webkit/symbian/iPhone browser you likely aren’t *using* the mobile web.

If nothing else though, the iHype puts competition out there. Loving iCrap is partly because Apple mixes style with function and it works well. Nokia has been flopping around with decent style but confused function. As have other phone makers… Personally I would prefer a N800, but the iPod touch will do.

]]> By: Gary Barber http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/10/13/not-to-itouch/comment-page-1/#comment-3212 Gary Barber Sun, 14 Oct 2007 01:33:37 +0000 http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/10/13/not-to-itouch/#comment-3212 @sue thats a really good idea lets just develop content for one device, like one browser or computer too. Lets put itte messages on the content says "Best viewed in...". Lets ignore that fact that the Itouch and Iphone are only in the 2-3% of the market at best (compare sales figures). People just have no idea. We want the content open, free not in walled gardens! @sue thats a really good idea lets just develop content for one device, like one browser or computer too. Lets put itte messages on the content says “Best viewed in…”. Lets ignore that fact that the Itouch and Iphone are only in the 2-3% of the market at best (compare sales figures).

People just have no idea. We want the content open, free not in walled gardens!

]]> By: Sue Waters http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/10/13/not-to-itouch/comment-page-1/#comment-3210 Sue Waters Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:27:54 +0000 http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/10/13/not-to-itouch/#comment-3210 Well there are some educators saying that the iphone and itouch have solved all the mlearning problems. There will be no need to develop content for the mobile web and these devices are the answer. Would rather have my Mac in bed with me! Well there are some educators saying that the iphone and itouch have solved all the mlearning problems. There will be no need to develop content for the mobile web and these devices are the answer.

Would rather have my Mac in bed with me!

]]> By: Gary Barber http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/10/13/not-to-itouch/comment-page-1/#comment-3206 Gary Barber Sat, 13 Oct 2007 14:13:12 +0000 http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/10/13/not-to-itouch/#comment-3206 <p>@Rosemary Now I have heard everything $500 for a computer remote. I guess I need to hand my geek badge back..</p> @Rosemary Now I have heard everything $500 for a computer remote. I guess I need to hand my geek badge back..

]]> By: Rosemary http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/10/13/not-to-itouch/comment-page-1/#comment-3204 Rosemary Sat, 13 Oct 2007 12:32:18 +0000 http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/10/13/not-to-itouch/#comment-3204 I'm with Richard on this. I still get a thrill with "slide to unlock" and the interface is just super nice to use. Keying text can be a bit hit and miss! Sure it's geeky to sit in bed watching tv on the iTouch... but I'm still getting a kick out of that. Using it as a remote control to change tv channels on the laptop is fun. I have a great excuse too... I "needed" one to keep abreast of mobile web technologies. Happy camper. I’m with Richard on this. I still get a thrill with “slide to unlock” and the interface is just super nice to use.

Keying text can be a bit hit and miss!

Sure it’s geeky to sit in bed watching tv on the iTouch… but I’m still getting a kick out of that.

Using it as a remote control to change tv channels on the laptop is fun.

I have a great excuse too… I “needed” one to keep abreast of mobile web technologies.

Happy camper.

]]> By: Richard Giles http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/10/13/not-to-itouch/comment-page-1/#comment-3203 Richard Giles Sat, 13 Oct 2007 12:03:06 +0000 http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/10/13/not-to-itouch/#comment-3203 I get yah. I have a great excuse. I "needed" one for Scouta ;) I get yah.

I have a great excuse. I “needed” one for Scouta ;)

]]> By: Gary Barber http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/10/13/not-to-itouch/comment-page-1/#comment-3202 Gary Barber Sat, 13 Oct 2007 11:05:17 +0000 http://manwithnoblog.com/2007/10/13/not-to-itouch/#comment-3202 @Richard, Point taken, I just can't justify $550+ for a smaller device, anyway I never buy version 1 Apple hardware, lets fix the bugs first. Mind you show me a trend and I'll not follow it :). @Richard, Point taken, I just can’t justify $550+ for a smaller device, anyway I never buy version 1 Apple hardware, lets fix the bugs first.

Mind you show me a trend and I’ll not follow it :) .

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