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	<title>Comments on: Slowly but Surely Towards the Semantic Web</title>
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	<description>Gary Barber rants on user experience, and the controlled chaos of the Web Industry</description>
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		<title>By: Gary Hayes</title>
		<link>http://manwithnoblog.com/2008/03/16/slowly-but-surely-towards-the-semantic-web/comment-page-1/#comment-7704</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 09:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote the original post that Matthew Hodgson referred to in your blog. To me the semantic web is not a paradigm shift and shouldn&#039;t be given the 3.0 label - it is as you and many others have stated an extension or more efficient data model.

My original post &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.personalizemedia.com/index.php/2006/08/27/virtual-worlds-web-30-and-portable-profiles/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; makes a clear distinction between 1,2 and 3. Web 1.0 is pushed/brochureware web. 2.0 is the asynchronous sharing web. 3.0 is the switch to &#039;live&#039;, always on, synchronous and more and more in &#039;simulated&#039; and virtual spaces. 

The diagram on/and my post has more detail and it is really based on the growth, particularly in Generation Y and millenials, of isometric and 3D virtual spaces but also the movement towards instantaneous communication whether 3D game-like worlds or ubiquitous video comms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote the original post that Matthew Hodgson referred to in your blog. To me the semantic web is not a paradigm shift and shouldn&#8217;t be given the 3.0 label &#8211; it is as you and many others have stated an extension or more efficient data model.</p>
<p>My original post <a href="http://www.personalizemedia.com/index.php/2006/08/27/virtual-worlds-web-30-and-portable-profiles/" rel="nofollow">here</a> makes a clear distinction between 1,2 and 3. Web 1.0 is pushed/brochureware web. 2.0 is the asynchronous sharing web. 3.0 is the switch to &#8216;live&#8217;, always on, synchronous and more and more in &#8216;simulated&#8217; and virtual spaces. </p>
<p>The diagram on/and my post has more detail and it is really based on the growth, particularly in Generation Y and millenials, of isometric and 3D virtual spaces but also the movement towards instantaneous communication whether 3D game-like worlds or ubiquitous video comms.</p>
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		<title>By: Myles Eftos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myles Eftos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Yahoo! is doing is a start. But for this to be REALLY useful, they have to add an API for their semantic web results.

Say I&#039;ve built a small program that pulls in hCalendar entries for all web events going on around Perth - my program should be able to act like a normal web user, and use the Yahoo! semantic search to find suitable hCalendar results.

Do that, and we have a semantic web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Yahoo! is doing is a start. But for this to be REALLY useful, they have to add an API for their semantic web results.</p>
<p>Say I&#8217;ve built a small program that pulls in hCalendar entries for all web events going on around Perth &#8211; my program should be able to act like a normal web user, and use the Yahoo! semantic search to find suitable hCalendar results.</p>
<p>Do that, and we have a semantic web.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Buchanan</title>
		<link>http://manwithnoblog.com/2008/03/16/slowly-but-surely-towards-the-semantic-web/comment-page-1/#comment-6277</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Buchanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the semantic web was a reality it&#039;d be incredibly useful. I won&#039;t say we&#039;ll never get there, but I will point out that so far people haven&#039;t had the understanding, skill or attention to correctly use the existing semantic markup in HTML.

So people either don&#039;t understand even the most basic level of semantics; or they&#039;re lazy; or both. So the semantic web has to fight one of the hardest things to fight: human nature combined with ignorance.

If someone doesn&#039;t know or care why h2 doesn&#039;t mean &quot;smaller than h1&quot;, how likely is it that they&#039;d write a document and add the required metatdata to disambiguate all the information? Exactly which John Smith were they talking about there? :)

I think we&#039;ll get something like the semantic web eventually. I&#039;m really not sure how and I don&#039;t think it&#039;ll be quick. Unless people can make money off it, in which case the SEO consultants and spammers are likely to be onto it right quick...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the semantic web was a reality it&#8217;d be incredibly useful. I won&#8217;t say we&#8217;ll never get there, but I will point out that so far people haven&#8217;t had the understanding, skill or attention to correctly use the existing semantic markup in HTML.</p>
<p>So people either don&#8217;t understand even the most basic level of semantics; or they&#8217;re lazy; or both. So the semantic web has to fight one of the hardest things to fight: human nature combined with ignorance.</p>
<p>If someone doesn&#8217;t know or care why h2 doesn&#8217;t mean &#8220;smaller than h1&#8243;, how likely is it that they&#8217;d write a document and add the required metatdata to disambiguate all the information? Exactly which John Smith were they talking about there? <img src='http://manwithnoblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think we&#8217;ll get something like the semantic web eventually. I&#8217;m really not sure how and I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;ll be quick. Unless people can make money off it, in which case the SEO consultants and spammers are likely to be onto it right quick&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn Greenhill</title>
		<link>http://manwithnoblog.com/2008/03/16/slowly-but-surely-towards-the-semantic-web/comment-page-1/#comment-6268</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn Greenhill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just listened to a great interview with Sir Tim Berners-Lee about the Semantic Web, recorded 7 February 2008. He gives so many examples of how it can be valuable and the underlying architecture that can makes it work.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://talk.talis.com/archives/2008/02/sir_tim_berners_1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Sir Tim Berners-Lee talks about the semantic web&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just listened to a great interview with Sir Tim Berners-Lee about the Semantic Web, recorded 7 February 2008. He gives so many examples of how it can be valuable and the underlying architecture that can makes it work.</p>
<p><a href="http://talk.talis.com/archives/2008/02/sir_tim_berners_1.html" rel="nofollow"> Sir Tim Berners-Lee talks about the semantic web</a></p>
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