Comments on: CSS menus why use Display:None http://manwithnoblog.com/2009/12/06/the-case-for-the-use-of-display-none/ Gary Barber rants on user experience, and the controlled chaos of the Web Industry Fri, 06 Apr 2012 04:05:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Katrina Youngman http://manwithnoblog.com/2009/12/06/the-case-for-the-use-of-display-none/comment-page-1/#comment-11923 Katrina Youngman Tue, 08 Dec 2009 07:47:12 +0000 http://manwithnoblog.com/?p=875#comment-11923 Nice post Gary! This is a great idea. I agree with Karl for small sites it's not really necessary, but for larger sites this will be fantastic. Nice post Gary! This is a great idea. I agree with Karl for small sites it’s not really necessary, but for larger sites this will be fantastic.

]]> By: Karl Brightman http://manwithnoblog.com/2009/12/06/the-case-for-the-use-of-display-none/comment-page-1/#comment-11920 Karl Brightman Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:44:00 +0000 http://manwithnoblog.com/?p=875#comment-11920 @Gary - Agreed on picking where to use display:none and where its best left off. I definitely agree that small sites with a small number of options we should not need to worry about the user being overwhelmed with options. We have to remember however that if there are enough options to use display:none that it's probably a good idea to make sure you require all the options. Display:none might help keep the information overload away from the screenreader user, but who says that it may not be an information overload for other users? Keep menus simple. @Gary – Agreed on picking where to use display:none and where its best left off. I definitely agree that small sites with a small number of options we should not need to worry about the user being overwhelmed with options.

We have to remember however that if there are enough options to use display:none that it’s probably a good idea to make sure you require all the options. Display:none might help keep the information overload away from the screenreader user, but who says that it may not be an information overload for other users? Keep menus simple.

]]> By: Gary Barber http://manwithnoblog.com/2009/12/06/the-case-for-the-use-of-display-none/comment-page-1/#comment-11919 Gary Barber Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:33:12 +0000 http://manwithnoblog.com/?p=875#comment-11919 @Karl - Yeah similar with the menus, mind you for small sites I still move it left, as to many items. I also find if you move it on the parent it does stay together. But for larger sites with lots of menu items, it has to the old school static menus. @Rachel - thankyou. We really do need to step outside the box and just consider the people. It's just a simple matter of asking. @Karl – Yeah similar with the menus, mind you for small sites I still move it left, as to many items. I also find if you move it on the parent it does stay together. But for larger sites with lots of menu items, it has to the old school static menus.

@Rachel – thankyou. We really do need to step outside the box and just consider the people. It’s just a simple matter of asking.

]]> By: Rachel http://manwithnoblog.com/2009/12/06/the-case-for-the-use-of-display-none/comment-page-1/#comment-11918 Rachel Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:14:33 +0000 http://manwithnoblog.com/?p=875#comment-11918 This is great, Gary, really innovative thinking instead of "how we can we replicate this for visually-impaired users?". I think you're right and we need to step outside the box and think about what works best on different systems. Thanks for the inspiration and useful advice. This is great, Gary, really innovative thinking instead of “how we can we replicate this for visually-impaired users?”.

I think you’re right and we need to step outside the box and think about what works best on different systems.

Thanks for the inspiration and useful advice.

]]> By: Karl Brightman http://manwithnoblog.com/2009/12/06/the-case-for-the-use-of-display-none/comment-page-1/#comment-11917 Karl Brightman Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:01:06 +0000 http://manwithnoblog.com/?p=875#comment-11917 I swapped over from using negative left position dropdown styles to display:none about a year and a half ago for this very reason. I had checked a negative left position with JAWS and noticed it was a bit of an information overload and the items don't seem to follow any kind of hierarchy anymore. Its reassuring to know that someone from the Disability Services Commission have noticed this as well. As for designing for people with disabilities? I've forgotten about people with color blindness on a few occasions where it really counted. I swapped over from using negative left position dropdown styles to display:none about a year and a half ago for this very reason. I had checked a negative left position with JAWS and noticed it was a bit of an information overload and the items don’t seem to follow any kind of hierarchy anymore.

Its reassuring to know that someone from the Disability Services Commission have noticed this as well.

As for designing for people with disabilities? I’ve forgotten about people with color blindness on a few occasions where it really counted.

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