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	<title>Comments on: Stop using PDF and MS-Word Forms</title>
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	<description>Gary Barber rants on user experience, and the controlled chaos of the Web Industry</description>
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		<title>By: Guy Park</title>
		<link>http://manwithnoblog.com/2010/05/13/stop-using-pdf-and-ms-word-forms/comment-page-1/#comment-13224</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 00:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice Post Gary.

This article is quite interesting.  PDF&#039;s I can let slide at some degree but MS-Docs, particularly the .docx formats, can not stand people using, it&#039;s too proprietary to Microsoft. 

The use of the Pros and Con titles we&#039;re a bit confusing but other than that, the article gets to the point fantastically well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice Post Gary.</p>
<p>This article is quite interesting.  PDF&#8217;s I can let slide at some degree but MS-Docs, particularly the .docx formats, can not stand people using, it&#8217;s too proprietary to Microsoft. </p>
<p>The use of the Pros and Con titles we&#8217;re a bit confusing but other than that, the article gets to the point fantastically well.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Barber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Barber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 06:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jennifer - funny the issues with these types of PDF form Services is that it assumes you have the latest PDF reader.  For instance I just get a blank page when I access their example forms. 

Then there is the Accessibility aspect. Professionally it would be just as easy to use a form builder CMS module to create your own web forms and not use a third party product that is going to block some potential clients. 

It comes down to testing with your audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jennifer &#8211; funny the issues with these types of PDF form Services is that it assumes you have the latest PDF reader.  For instance I just get a blank page when I access their example forms. </p>
<p>Then there is the Accessibility aspect. Professionally it would be just as easy to use a form builder CMS module to create your own web forms and not use a third party product that is going to block some potential clients. </p>
<p>It comes down to testing with your audience.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Juergen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Juergen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 05:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We had all our PDF forms created at http://www.pleht.com  We haven&#039;t sent or received a fax since, and the forms can be filled out and saved.  Our clients are happy.  Different forms technologies meet different needs.  For us, PDF forms was the way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had all our PDF forms created at <a href="http://www.pleht.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.pleht.com</a>  We haven&#8217;t sent or received a fax since, and the forms can be filled out and saved.  Our clients are happy.  Different forms technologies meet different needs.  For us, PDF forms was the way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Alfred Low</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alfred Low</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 02:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary

I spoke to a ATO rep on the phone to ask whether the PDF form I faxed two weeks ago had been received.

She said that there wasn&#039;t any entry in my records that the ATO had received the form.

However, she said, &quot;This doesn&#039;t mean that the form has not been received.  It just means that maybe it hasn&#039;t been entered into the system.  However, I can&#039;t tell you categorically that the form has or has not been received.&quot;

Sigh...

I wonder how much it would cost and what the long-term savings would be if the ATO deployed live web-forms instead of PDF forms?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary</p>
<p>I spoke to a ATO rep on the phone to ask whether the PDF form I faxed two weeks ago had been received.</p>
<p>She said that there wasn&#8217;t any entry in my records that the ATO had received the form.</p>
<p>However, she said, &#8220;This doesn&#8217;t mean that the form has not been received.  It just means that maybe it hasn&#8217;t been entered into the system.  However, I can&#8217;t tell you categorically that the form has or has not been received.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sigh&#8230;</p>
<p>I wonder how much it would cost and what the long-term savings would be if the ATO deployed live web-forms instead of PDF forms?</p>
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